1 00:00:04,910 --> 00:00:05,910 at the clock. 2 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:38,160 Thank you. 3 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:39,800 Thank you. 4 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,520 Thank you, people. How are you? 5 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,880 I appreciate it. Thank you so much. 6 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,000 Woof, woof. Absolutely. 7 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:52,880 All right. Thank you. 8 00:00:53,900 --> 00:00:54,900 Okay. 9 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:57,560 All right. 10 00:00:58,260 --> 00:00:59,900 Let's get to all the big news. 11 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,260 Big news from outer space. 12 00:01:04,010 --> 00:01:07,550 No, did you see this? You know, Elon Musk has his company, SpaceX, an amazing 13 00:01:07,550 --> 00:01:08,550 company. 14 00:01:09,210 --> 00:01:15,050 And they went public a few months ago, did very well. But their rocket crashed 15 00:01:15,050 --> 00:01:18,570 into the moon. I don't know if you saw their rocket. Look, that's science. 16 00:01:18,790 --> 00:01:23,370 Things go wrong before they go right. But yes, we hit the moon with a rocket. 17 00:01:24,810 --> 00:01:28,310 Trump announced today the moon has been completely defeated and they're begging 18 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:29,310 for a deal. 19 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:31,490 Begging for a deal. 20 00:01:37,530 --> 00:01:42,330 I kid the Iran war. Is it a war? I don't know. It's a war, not a war. It's 21 00:01:42,330 --> 00:01:45,230 complicated. That's the status. It's very complicated. 22 00:01:45,550 --> 00:01:49,310 Iran, ooh, now they're saying that they're going to, the Strait of Hormuz 23 00:01:49,310 --> 00:01:53,310 is open, except they're going to ban ships just from the United States and 24 00:01:53,310 --> 00:01:57,690 Israel. This really pissed off Trump. He said, you are so lucky we are out of 25 00:01:57,690 --> 00:01:58,690 missiles. 26 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:05,960 Yeah. 27 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,660 Turns out we are. You know, we kept saying to Iran, there's more where that 28 00:02:09,660 --> 00:02:11,200 came from. No, turns out not. 29 00:02:11,860 --> 00:02:15,180 Turns out not more where that came from. I don't know. We spent a trillion 30 00:02:15,180 --> 00:02:19,280 dollars on defense and Marata missiles. You know, French fries are expensive at 31 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,860 McDonald's, but when you look at the bottom of the bag, there's one leg. 32 00:02:25,860 --> 00:02:32,060 President had a, I would say, a mixed week. 33 00:02:32,650 --> 00:02:38,050 He did get his attorney general through. That's his personal lawyer, is the 34 00:02:38,050 --> 00:02:40,890 attorney general. And he got his director of national intelligence 35 00:02:40,890 --> 00:02:43,130 through. But he lost Jeanine Pirro. 36 00:02:46,130 --> 00:02:50,590 Even she would not go along with his story about the reflecting pool. 37 00:02:51,410 --> 00:02:56,110 And she's pretty far MAGA, but no, even she wouldn't go along. And Trump said 38 00:02:56,110 --> 00:02:57,510 she folded like an umbrella. 39 00:03:01,390 --> 00:03:02,890 Don't we want umbrellas to fold? 40 00:03:05,690 --> 00:03:12,330 It's like saying about some guy you don't like, boy, that guy really 41 00:03:12,330 --> 00:03:13,330 shat the toilet. 42 00:03:15,830 --> 00:03:17,490 Yeah, that's where you shit. Okay. 43 00:03:18,070 --> 00:03:23,090 But yeah, Jeanine Pirro literally brought a suitcase of evidence to the 44 00:03:23,090 --> 00:03:28,210 White House to show it wasn't vandals, it was bad construction, and Trump not 45 00:03:28,210 --> 00:03:29,210 buying it. 46 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:34,280 It was sad. He said, people get away with things and it's a disgrace. He was 47 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,840 very wounded. He said, sometimes I wonder why I even bother making shit up. 48 00:03:41,420 --> 00:03:43,360 I said the president. 49 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:50,300 But listen, while we're obsessing about reflecting pools and the ballroom, that 50 00:03:50,300 --> 00:03:52,200 was in the news today, the ballroom, the pool. 51 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,720 I say this every week. AI, going to kill us all. 52 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,480 Last week, it was they kind of like went into their own evolution. They can 53 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,140 evolve on their own. Now, we found out this week, for the first time, they've 54 00:04:04,140 --> 00:04:08,440 created functioning viruses not seen in nature. No date when we'll all be dead, 55 00:04:08,540 --> 00:04:14,940 but you can access the new platform through chat RIP. 56 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:25,040 Listen, I've said this before. I hope the 57 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,040 aliens are here. 58 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,260 I do. I hope they're here and watching this and they're going to save us. And 59 00:04:30,260 --> 00:04:33,860 by the way, the administration this week, just a few days ago, maybe 60 00:04:33,860 --> 00:04:37,740 yesterday, they unleashed a new trove of UFO files. 61 00:04:38,460 --> 00:04:39,720 Interesting things in there. 62 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:44,980 Triangular craft, weird lights over an army base, a dick-like figure with large 63 00:04:44,980 --> 00:04:47,760 eyes. That was just an R.A.R. in a Grande video. 64 00:04:56,330 --> 00:05:00,670 We want her to, maybe that joke will make her eat something. So I'm doing my, 65 00:05:00,710 --> 00:05:03,070 I'm saying maybe it'll help. 66 00:05:04,090 --> 00:05:08,050 Speaking of eating something, I got to tell you this. Democrats have found a 67 00:05:08,050 --> 00:05:13,290 candidate who hates Thanksgiving and wants to get rid of it. Yes, running for 68 00:05:13,290 --> 00:05:15,350 governor in Wisconsin, Francesca Hong. 69 00:05:15,570 --> 00:05:18,710 Have you heard about this? Yeah, Thanksgiving, she says, should be 70 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:22,890 canceled. I say good. Finally, a politician willing to stand up to big 71 00:05:22,890 --> 00:05:23,890 stuffing. 72 00:05:31,690 --> 00:05:32,689 I love the Democrats. 73 00:05:32,690 --> 00:05:39,330 Surprisingly, Debbie Downer's policy about Thanksgiving is not popular 74 00:05:39,330 --> 00:05:40,910 with anybody, really. 75 00:05:41,170 --> 00:05:44,230 I mean, white people don't like it. People of color don't like it. Women 76 00:05:44,230 --> 00:05:48,470 don't like it. Men don't like it. It does have 98% approval with turkeys. 77 00:05:51,750 --> 00:05:58,610 But of course, you know, she wrote this. She said right 78 00:05:58,610 --> 00:06:02,030 on her tweet a couple of years ago, Get rid of Thanksgiving. 79 00:06:02,270 --> 00:06:05,850 Of course, yesterday she went on CNN, renounced it. I don't believe you. 80 00:06:06,110 --> 00:06:10,010 I don't believe you people who renounce things. We know what you said. You mean 81 00:06:10,010 --> 00:06:13,890 it. Live by it. You're fucking squirrelly out of it. No, you meant it. 82 00:06:13,950 --> 00:06:16,530 You know why I know she meant it? Because she hates all holidays. 83 00:06:16,770 --> 00:06:20,470 She talked about feeling attacked on Christmas when someone put on her 84 00:06:20,470 --> 00:06:21,670 computer a Christmas scene. 85 00:06:22,010 --> 00:06:24,050 Doesn't like fireworks, Fourth of July. 86 00:06:27,950 --> 00:06:29,970 All the far lefties hate Halloween. 87 00:06:30,350 --> 00:06:32,110 Costumes that are inappropriate? Oh, please. 88 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:38,790 This woman doesn't like Valentine's Day. Another way of capitalism taking over 89 00:06:38,790 --> 00:06:43,510 our love life. She said, Valentine's Day, the holiday that brings out the 90 00:06:43,510 --> 00:06:44,510 worst of humanity. 91 00:06:45,370 --> 00:06:51,490 That's the holiday that... That's the holiday that brings out the worst of 92 00:06:51,490 --> 00:06:54,650 humanity? Have you ever been to a Black Friday sale? 93 00:07:02,620 --> 00:07:06,920 People will hip-check an old lady to get an air fryer. That's the worst. 94 00:07:08,220 --> 00:07:11,180 Okay, so this is her policy. 95 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:16,400 No Christmas, no Thanksgiving, no July 4th, no Halloween, no Valentine's Day. 96 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,460 One place you don't have to worry about running into Francesca Hong, Party City. 97 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,720 I couldn't make a character like this up. And she's running for governor of a 98 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:33,720 big state, Wisconsin. 99 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,200 She also said that she once left a restaurant because she had an anxiety 100 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:43,460 attack from being around, quote, too many old white people. 101 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,340 Well, there's an easy solution to that. Don't go to Cracker Barrel. 102 00:07:50,620 --> 00:07:52,260 All right, we've got a great show. 103 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,760 Sarah Palmieri and Matt Roser here. But first up. 104 00:07:56,300 --> 00:08:00,480 He is the founder and CEO of the Mike Rowe Works Foundation and a host of the 105 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,700 Way I Heard It podcast, Mike Rowe. 106 00:08:03,460 --> 00:08:04,620 Mike Rowe. 107 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:06,880 Mike. 108 00:08:07,940 --> 00:08:11,040 You haven't aged a day since I saw you in 2013. 109 00:08:11,580 --> 00:08:14,380 How you doing? Don't think I'm buying a blink. 110 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,539 All right. 111 00:08:15,540 --> 00:08:19,180 It's been so long since you've been with us. I'm glad you wore your blue jeans. 112 00:08:19,300 --> 00:08:20,169 You are the... 113 00:08:20,170 --> 00:08:23,430 Yes, you're work boots even on a show like this. 114 00:08:24,210 --> 00:08:25,530 You're the blue collar. 115 00:08:27,330 --> 00:08:29,650 This is so weird. Why? 116 00:08:30,550 --> 00:08:34,030 It was literally 13 years ago. We weren't in this studio. It went like 117 00:08:34,030 --> 00:08:39,230 that. In a blink, but it was the most, I was just talking in makeup. 118 00:08:39,470 --> 00:08:40,470 I'm wearing makeup. 119 00:08:43,870 --> 00:08:47,410 It was the strangest week for me because I did your show. 120 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,680 The foundation had just announced a scholarship program, so I'm out there 121 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:53,480 hawking it, and I'm making the rounds. 122 00:08:53,820 --> 00:08:58,220 And we had a great conversation, and it moved the needle. Three days later, I 123 00:08:58,220 --> 00:09:01,740 wound up having the exact same conversation with Glenn Beck on his 124 00:09:01,740 --> 00:09:02,740 show. Wow. 125 00:09:03,100 --> 00:09:06,840 Moved the needle. It was great. Went home, felt pretty good, went on the 126 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:12,620 socials. And that's the first time I saw all my buddies on the right completely 127 00:09:12,620 --> 00:09:15,480 lost their minds when they saw me talking to you. 128 00:09:15,900 --> 00:09:20,120 And all my buddies on the left completely lost their minds when they 129 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,860 saw me talking to Beck. Fuck both of them. You know what? 130 00:09:27,140 --> 00:09:32,760 I... It was truly the first time, though, I realized, I don't think people 131 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:37,340 are listening to anything I'm saying. I think they're looking at who I'm sitting 132 00:09:37,340 --> 00:09:39,140 next to. Yeah, people don't engage. 133 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,720 I make this complaint all the time. I just say to people, whenever they 134 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,040 criticize me, are you engaging with the idea? 135 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:49,040 If you are, we're good. If you're just saying, no, you're old, you're white, 136 00:09:49,100 --> 00:09:51,520 you're this, you're that, or on the other side, you're black, you're blah, 137 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:53,160 blah, blah, that's not the idea. 138 00:09:53,820 --> 00:09:55,440 Engage with the idea. 139 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,540 What a contrast. So let's talk about your idea. 140 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,740 All right. Because, you know, you are the original blue-collar guy. I mean, 141 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,700 your obituary is going to say, you know, blue-collar hero who put that issue on 142 00:10:07,700 --> 00:10:08,740 the map. You really are. 143 00:10:08,940 --> 00:10:11,020 And it's ever more relevant. 144 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:12,800 It is. 145 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,260 You know, it's a heck of a thing when the headlines catch up to your own 146 00:10:18,260 --> 00:10:19,260 smack. Right. 147 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,460 And honestly, no, look, I was trying it on 13 years ago. The foundation had been 148 00:10:24,460 --> 00:10:28,640 around for five years. We were doing a pretty good job of shining a light on a 149 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,980 bunch of decent jobs that, for a whole lot of reasons, people weren't excited 150 00:10:31,980 --> 00:10:32,980 about having. 151 00:10:34,020 --> 00:10:35,020 Job like? 152 00:10:35,420 --> 00:10:39,640 Well, welders, steamfitters, pipefitters, fit builders, linemen, 153 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,840 plumbers, electricians. 154 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,920 You know, that part of the workforce that doesn't require a four-year degree, 155 00:10:46,100 --> 00:10:48,640 but kind of keeps the whole country stitched together. 156 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:52,480 Right. Dirty Jobs was a love letter to those vocations, but it was an 157 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:57,620 entertainment show. The serious part of me wanted to do something a bit more on 158 00:10:57,620 --> 00:11:00,440 the nose with the foundation. So we started these work ethic scholarships. 159 00:11:01,460 --> 00:11:06,320 We've given away about $20 million in these things. Thank you. 160 00:11:07,060 --> 00:11:08,580 I've been looking for applause. 161 00:11:08,860 --> 00:11:10,600 Thank you. But you deserve it. 162 00:11:11,070 --> 00:11:16,930 Well, I don't deserve it, but I'll tell you who does. The people like you, and 163 00:11:16,930 --> 00:11:19,690 I'm not just sucking up, but this is... I'll go ahead. All right. 164 00:11:20,350 --> 00:11:23,310 Okay. No, no. Okay. No, no. No, no, I will. 165 00:11:24,190 --> 00:11:28,610 This is marketing and PR 101. 166 00:11:29,450 --> 00:11:30,830 And it goes both ways. 167 00:11:31,090 --> 00:11:33,390 You know, people always kind of poo-poo marketing. 168 00:11:33,590 --> 00:11:35,750 They're like, whatever, it's the first thing in the budget to go. 169 00:11:36,450 --> 00:11:40,540 But... The ideas, the stigmas, the stereotypes, the myths, the 170 00:11:40,540 --> 00:11:46,100 misperceptions that surround 7 million open jobs right now, many of which are 171 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:50,980 in trades and in manufacturing, those things are real. And it's a mindset, 172 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,180 right? And so to get parents and guidance counselors and people to think 173 00:11:55,180 --> 00:12:00,640 differently about the nature of the work, it's turning a tanker around. 174 00:12:02,590 --> 00:12:05,570 People are paying attention now more than they ever have. And you have had an 175 00:12:05,570 --> 00:12:12,190 effect. An area we've both agreed on for a long time is instead of trying to make 176 00:12:12,190 --> 00:12:13,530 everybody get a college degree, 177 00:12:14,330 --> 00:12:16,670 I've certainly done a number of editorials on this. 178 00:12:16,930 --> 00:12:21,270 Make it so a college degree is not necessary as much for jobs where it 179 00:12:21,270 --> 00:12:26,010 isn't. And 16 states have now put that into law. I think that's because you put 180 00:12:26,010 --> 00:12:30,110 that idea in the water, that you don't need a college degree for everything. 181 00:12:30,310 --> 00:12:33,750 And that's what we're doing now. This is great progress, I think, because as you 182 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:37,910 say, there's so many jobs that need to be done, and we don't have enough people 183 00:12:37,910 --> 00:12:41,270 to do them. I mean, because of so many things that are, you know, the 184 00:12:41,270 --> 00:12:46,080 environment is kind of going off the edge. and AI and God knows what else, 185 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,780 fires. We saw all the need for rebuilding here. 186 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:55,380 Rebuilding, to me, is going to be a very big growth industry. And there's just 187 00:12:55,380 --> 00:13:00,680 not enough people to do it. We had $1.1 trillion in outstanding student loans 188 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:05,720 when you and I talked last. Now it's $1.8 trillion. Most of that's held by 189 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:11,180 kids who either started a four-year degree and dropped out or who got one 190 00:13:11,180 --> 00:13:16,180 and statistically aren't. working or not working in their chosen field. That's a 191 00:13:16,180 --> 00:13:23,040 bad number. Meanwhile, we've got 400,000 jobs in construction right now, twice 192 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,140 that many in the defense industrial base. 193 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:26,500 It's bananas. 194 00:13:26,740 --> 00:13:27,740 And look, 195 00:13:28,220 --> 00:13:33,100 people, I'm not sure, believe me completely, but not a week goes by when 196 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:39,180 I don't get a call from some CEO of some consequential company, some of whom you 197 00:13:39,180 --> 00:13:42,420 mentioned in the monologue, or an elected official, governors mostly. 198 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:48,060 And they're freaking out. Like, they've done the math for every five 199 00:13:48,060 --> 00:13:54,140 tradespeople who retire to come in. It's been that way for about 12 years now. So 200 00:13:54,140 --> 00:13:57,260 never mind the stigmas and the stereotypes. The arithmetic is 201 00:13:57,260 --> 00:14:03,800 horrifying. And it's all just conspired into this bully base of 202 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,280 bad data. 203 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,960 I'm telling you, they are in a panic. 204 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,680 I mean, they, I mean, anybody, certainly any company that has a blue-collar 205 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:16,380 workforce is going full on. 206 00:14:16,740 --> 00:14:20,600 Jim Farley told me, he's got 5,000 empty bays at Ford. 207 00:14:20,940 --> 00:14:25,740 These are AI-proof six-figure jobs, right? 120,000 a year. He can't fill 208 00:14:25,740 --> 00:14:27,540 them. He can't fill them. 209 00:14:27,900 --> 00:14:31,320 And that's... But they're out there. They're everywhere. 210 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,800 Well, there's 7 million men. 211 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,220 able-bodied men, mostly young, who are what they call nilf. 212 00:14:39,180 --> 00:14:43,220 Nilf is not in the labor force. This is different than unemployed. 213 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:48,580 Unemployment means you're looking, but you can't find a job. This is not 214 00:14:48,580 --> 00:14:52,800 looking. Not looking. The guy who should be sitting here to have that 215 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,720 conversation with you is called Nick Eberstadt, and he wrote a book called 216 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,940 Men Without Work. He published it in 2005 originally, and then... Again, 217 00:15:01,980 --> 00:15:06,000 during the pandemic, because everything he predicted happened. 218 00:15:06,460 --> 00:15:12,260 That exact number right now, it's like 6,990,000 able-bodied men, not only not 219 00:15:12,260 --> 00:15:15,560 working, not looking. That's never happened in our country, not in 220 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,980 peacetime. Why aren't they looking? I think it's because the porn is too good. 221 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,820 The porn is excellent, but it takes away the motivation. You have to be 222 00:15:23,820 --> 00:15:28,200 motivated. You have to, oh, I got to get a job to get a girl. Yeah. Now, they 223 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,760 don't want a girl because they sit home and... 224 00:15:32,490 --> 00:15:34,390 Take matters into their own hands? They do. 225 00:15:36,250 --> 00:15:38,390 Come on. I mean, come on. 226 00:15:42,210 --> 00:15:47,310 Nick would say the question doesn't start with what are they doing? It 227 00:15:47,310 --> 00:15:48,970 starts with what aren't they doing? 228 00:15:49,510 --> 00:15:52,910 They're not volunteering at their local church. 229 00:15:53,210 --> 00:15:57,090 They're not in the Kiwanis Club. They're not checking out the Rotarians or the 230 00:15:57,090 --> 00:15:59,890 Lions Club. They're not in the Boy Scouts or Skills USA. 231 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:08,520 community what are they doing on average they're spending between 2 000 and 2 100 232 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:15,520 hours a year on their screen it is just we just 233 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:21,880 haven't seen the like of it before how are they able To survive, I can't paint 234 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,160 with too broad a brush. Maybe some of them are trust fund kids. Maybe some of 235 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,840 them have enough. Well, a lot of it is money from other generations. Sure. You 236 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,560 know, they just hate our generation, except when we give them money, that's 237 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,359 always okay. 238 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,100 Yeah. It's always okay when you get daddy's money. Then the boomers aren't 239 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:38,100 so bad. 240 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,400 I shared your monologue from last week. 241 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:41,640 Oh, yeah. 242 00:16:42,700 --> 00:16:48,400 I thought it was really important because you didn't. 243 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,380 You didn't accuse anybody of anything, really. 244 00:16:52,580 --> 00:16:54,280 Just quoted. You quoted. Yeah. 245 00:16:54,660 --> 00:16:59,360 So I put this up on my little page, and I wrote what I wrote. And we have over 246 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:05,220 200,000 comments on this thing. You hit something that's so 247 00:17:05,220 --> 00:17:08,760 primal right now. 248 00:17:08,980 --> 00:17:15,359 And for me, I don't really have a dog in the big socialism hunt specifically, 249 00:17:15,700 --> 00:17:17,200 but I've got one in Workforce. 250 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:23,579 And when I look at 400,000 or 500,000 open jobs, and then I look at those 7 251 00:17:23,579 --> 00:17:29,000 million able-bodied men not even looking at the jobs at all, and then I look at 252 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,840 this whole conversation unspooling, I don't know if you saw this, but the stat 253 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:40,820 that got me, within the Democratic Party right now, 59% of Democrats 254 00:17:40,820 --> 00:17:45,340 who support socialism have college degrees. 255 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,140 40% who support socialism don't. 256 00:17:50,540 --> 00:17:57,300 So this thing that's being called a worker uprising, it's really 257 00:17:57,300 --> 00:18:03,780 not. It's not. This is happening because a lot of people with a really expensive 258 00:18:03,780 --> 00:18:08,220 credential are in the hole in a big way. And they're pissed. 259 00:18:08,620 --> 00:18:10,860 And I don't blame them, honestly. 260 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,780 I mean, you can say what you want about it, but they took our advice, man. 261 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,760 They took our advice. We said, borrow whatever it takes. 262 00:18:20,380 --> 00:18:24,580 Go follow your dream. And then go get your dream job. 263 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,760 And that was a bunch of nonsense. Yeah, they don't want to borrow money to get a 264 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,780 degree for a job that doesn't exist. 265 00:18:31,020 --> 00:18:35,560 And I don't want to lend them money that they'll never be able to pay back to get 266 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,640 their credentials for the job. No, I mean, you had it right all those years 267 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:40,780 ago. Shop class. 268 00:18:41,470 --> 00:18:44,470 You know, which, by the way, they've taken out from a lot of schools. I 269 00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:47,390 wanted to show you this picture. Do you remember a couple of years ago, there 270 00:18:47,390 --> 00:18:50,430 was a big story. It was out of Canada. This is not America, but it could have 271 00:18:50,430 --> 00:18:50,989 been here. 272 00:18:50,990 --> 00:18:55,350 A shop teacher, I think her name was Kyla Lemieux. Yeah, yeah. Show the 273 00:18:55,350 --> 00:18:58,030 picture. This is a shop teacher. Yeah, there you go. 274 00:18:58,690 --> 00:18:59,690 Your thoughts. 275 00:18:59,870 --> 00:19:01,730 Well, that's a shop teacher. 276 00:19:02,050 --> 00:19:03,350 Two thoughts come to mind. 277 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,020 I'm doing what I can. 278 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,160 I think you're doing great. 279 00:19:14,020 --> 00:19:18,460 The first thing that has to go is her hair. 280 00:19:19,100 --> 00:19:23,760 Her hair is a real hazard. You get around a lane with that hair. 281 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,700 No, look, when we took shop class out of high school. 282 00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:35,750 They said the one-on-one would be a serious look at the changing face of a 283 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:39,790 modern-day proletariat. I just thought it was apropos for you. It's apropos. I 284 00:19:39,790 --> 00:19:43,190 mean, it just says a lot that that is it. Now, that's not the typical shop 285 00:19:43,190 --> 00:19:46,910 teacher, but... Not typical, no. But at least the shop class is there. 286 00:19:47,150 --> 00:19:51,230 I mean... When we took shop class out of high school, we sent a message to a 287 00:19:51,230 --> 00:19:55,130 whole generation of kids, not just that these jobs aren't worth pursuing, but 288 00:19:55,130 --> 00:19:56,310 they're not even worth looking at. 289 00:19:56,570 --> 00:19:58,650 We removed all the optical proof. 290 00:19:59,210 --> 00:20:02,210 from K-12 that that kind of work even existed. 291 00:20:02,410 --> 00:20:06,790 So even a guy walking from math to English can't poke his head into the 292 00:20:06,790 --> 00:20:09,870 metal shop and go, oh, look, a lathe. Oh, look, enormous boobs. 293 00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:12,930 Whatever they see, that's gone. 294 00:20:13,290 --> 00:20:19,710 So I can't prove it, but I can draw a pretty straight line to every 295 00:20:19,710 --> 00:20:24,490 calamity we're talking about right now, whether it's student debt, those 7 296 00:20:24,490 --> 00:20:28,010 million men not working, or all these open jobs. 297 00:20:28,830 --> 00:20:31,350 It starts with the removal of shop class. 298 00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:36,810 And everything that happened after that turned us into frogs in the boiling 299 00:20:36,810 --> 00:20:40,830 water and a little more and a little more and a little more. And now my 300 00:20:40,830 --> 00:20:47,010 foundation has electricians that we trained six years ago that are making 301 00:20:47,010 --> 00:20:48,490 $230,000 a year. 302 00:20:49,690 --> 00:20:52,070 $230,000 a year. 303 00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:56,630 Right now, no college debt. They're setting their own schedules. 304 00:20:56,850 --> 00:20:57,850 More overtime. 305 00:20:58,350 --> 00:20:59,810 than they can fill. 306 00:21:00,570 --> 00:21:05,070 And those stories, man, that's the compliment I meant to pay you and 307 00:21:05,070 --> 00:21:08,270 everybody else. I have nothing to do with shop class. You have everything to 308 00:21:08,270 --> 00:21:13,650 do with it. Let's not make it another 13 years. It's mine. Thank you, Mike. That 309 00:21:13,650 --> 00:21:14,650 was fantastic. 310 00:21:14,670 --> 00:21:16,910 Mike Rowe. All right. Let's meet our panel. 311 00:21:22,750 --> 00:21:23,750 Thank you. 312 00:21:24,170 --> 00:21:25,170 What? 313 00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:31,540 Last place you'd ever find me is shop class. Okay, here's an editor-at-large 314 00:21:31,540 --> 00:21:35,500 at Reason Magazine and co-host of the Fifth Column podcast, Matt Welch, our 315 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:36,500 friend Matt Welch. 316 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,840 And she writes The Red Letter on SubSec and hosts the Tara Palmieri Show. 317 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:45,180 Tara, Tara, right? 318 00:21:45,420 --> 00:21:46,420 Yeah, Tara. 319 00:21:46,460 --> 00:21:51,120 Jersey girl, like you. Tara Palmieri, not Tara Palmieri. 320 00:21:52,220 --> 00:21:53,360 Okay, so... 321 00:21:54,380 --> 00:21:58,120 Let me pick up on what he was talking about. Yes, last week I did this whole 322 00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:02,500 thing about how the democratic socialists, only in recent years, are 323 00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:06,660 really communists. And I just quoted them, okay? I just used their own 324 00:22:06,660 --> 00:22:08,540 quotes. Now, you can argue with me. 325 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,680 Somebody in the audience gasped. Several people did at one point. That told me, 326 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,620 okay, this is new to people. But either you don't know what communism is or you 327 00:22:17,620 --> 00:22:18,620 don't speak English. 328 00:22:20,380 --> 00:22:21,600 Here's the interesting part. 329 00:22:22,020 --> 00:22:26,540 The democratic socialists, very recently were truly socialists. They were founded 330 00:22:26,540 --> 00:22:30,980 by this guy I think his name is Michael Harrington. His name is now a slur. That 331 00:22:30,980 --> 00:22:32,240 should tell you where they've gone. 332 00:22:32,460 --> 00:22:35,860 It's like, oh my God, you're a Harringtonite? You still believe in 333 00:22:35,860 --> 00:22:40,140 socialism? So interesting, the wrinkle in this story, because now that they're 334 00:22:40,140 --> 00:22:42,060 communists, there's an opening for socialism. 335 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,340 And you know who's filling it? Donald Trump. 336 00:22:44,820 --> 00:22:49,640 Donald Trump. How else do you explain a 9.9 stake in Intel? 337 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,220 by the government. Is that not socialism? 338 00:22:52,540 --> 00:22:57,780 Nvidia, we took 15% cut when we let them sell chips to China. 339 00:22:58,740 --> 00:23:03,320 Nippon Steel, that merged with the U.S. Steel, we have a golden share. We 340 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,540 basically run their boardroom now. 341 00:23:05,780 --> 00:23:09,740 And you know this is socialism, I think, because Bernie Sanders agrees with it 342 00:23:09,740 --> 00:23:12,420 all. Oh, yeah. He wants to do it with the AI companies. 343 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,680 The free market is dead. 344 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,980 They have decided that the government wants to control. 345 00:23:17,550 --> 00:23:21,150 30 different companies, and Intel alone, which was a loser because of NVIDIA, 346 00:23:21,310 --> 00:23:25,190 they basically own 9.9% of that company. 347 00:23:25,410 --> 00:23:30,690 And that's a lot. And President Trump, after they invested in this company, he 348 00:23:30,690 --> 00:23:37,630 then went on to buy stocks in NVIDIA, which shot up 200%. Okay, so he actually 349 00:23:37,630 --> 00:23:42,070 made a ton of money on this. His government created a floor on a stock 350 00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:43,730 that he owns. 351 00:23:44,350 --> 00:23:48,350 It's crony capitalism. It's crony capitalism. Yeah. Seizing literally the 352 00:23:48,350 --> 00:23:51,170 means of production. Because let's remember how these things happen. How 353 00:23:51,170 --> 00:23:55,090 did Intel happen? Right. One year ago today, Donald Trump was out there saying 354 00:23:55,090 --> 00:23:59,930 we need to maybe fire the CEO of Intel because I think he's a Chinese spy. 355 00:24:00,190 --> 00:24:03,910 Like what? The president is just singling out a huge CEO of an important 356 00:24:03,910 --> 00:24:05,090 country company. 357 00:24:05,490 --> 00:24:08,710 And so they had to scramble the jets and have a meeting at the White House. And 358 00:24:08,710 --> 00:24:11,750 what happened at the end of that meeting? OK, you stay. We get 10 percent 359 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:13,290 of your company. That is luggage. 360 00:24:13,870 --> 00:24:17,790 We have never seen anything like this in modern times. Also, the shakedowns. I 361 00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:23,170 mean, since he came into office in 2025, he has raised $800 million, mostly from 362 00:24:23,170 --> 00:24:29,970 corporations, for his ballroom, for the library, for the Freedom 250, which is 363 00:24:29,970 --> 00:24:33,430 where they are doing baptisms on the National Mall. And it's all going 364 00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:37,090 through foundations and LLCs. Who's getting rich? 365 00:24:37,370 --> 00:24:41,090 Who gives a shit about the ballroom? We have to stop talking about the ballroom. 366 00:24:41,450 --> 00:24:45,320 It's not about that, though. Just the stupidest. It's not about that. It's 367 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,320 about the money. 368 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,320 that they are making from the ballroom. 369 00:24:48,620 --> 00:24:54,080 Who's getting the contracts? In a $4, $5 trillion economy, we're talking about 370 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,560 the ballroom. It's no stupider than Burning Man. 371 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,360 No, but there's just so many... The ballroom is a device for them to make 372 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:05,820 money. It's important not to sleep on the problem of seizing companies, which 373 00:25:05,820 --> 00:25:10,120 is something that Republicans knew a lot about when they objected strenuously to 374 00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:14,060 Barack Obama joining or, you know, having government motors, right? 375 00:25:14,060 --> 00:25:16,510 Remember, they're always saying, he's picking... winners and losers. 376 00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:19,390 At least some of the companies he picked were winners, like Tesla. 377 00:25:19,630 --> 00:25:23,110 What happens is that the government now is your regulator. 378 00:25:23,630 --> 00:25:26,590 It's your shareholder. So it's profit and loss. 379 00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:30,570 Sometimes it's your financier. It's giving you money. And then sometimes 380 00:25:30,570 --> 00:25:33,790 it's your customer, too. The conflicts of interest are crazy. 381 00:25:34,010 --> 00:25:37,490 And then from the perspective of the company now, the company doesn't have to 382 00:25:37,490 --> 00:25:40,570 think about its customers, which a company should be doing. It's thinking 383 00:25:40,570 --> 00:25:44,190 about one person in the White House right now. So it's doing worse and we're 384 00:25:44,190 --> 00:25:44,999 doing worse. 385 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,580 none of us are saying that we're against socialism. 386 00:25:47,860 --> 00:25:52,120 Every... Modern democracy is a quasi-socialist country, as it should 387 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:56,000 be. The private sector shouldn't be. Wouldn't you say none of us are against 388 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,960 socialism? Of any kind? You're not for Medicare, Social Security, the Marine 389 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:03,340 Corps? I don't necessarily call those. I'm not against social programs 390 00:26:03,340 --> 00:26:05,060 necessarily. Many of them I am. 391 00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:11,260 But socialism as an idea is a bad idea. It's worth calling socialism out as well 392 00:26:11,260 --> 00:26:13,940 as communism. Communism is the bad applied version. 393 00:26:14,340 --> 00:26:18,240 Socialism ain't no picnic either. But some part of a democracy has to be. be 394 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,860 socialistic. The government has to do certain things that the private sector 395 00:26:21,860 --> 00:26:24,300 cannot or should not. Am I wrong about that? 396 00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:29,400 The government is there to do things that we decided that we can't do 397 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,560 ourselves. Right? And that's going to happen in every single company. I don't 398 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,780 call that socialistic. Okay. Well, most people do. 399 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,700 Social... It's literally called social security. 400 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,970 Alright. By the way, I found someone who's not a socialist in the Democratic 401 00:26:44,970 --> 00:26:48,290 Party, and it's a surprising one, but I was reading a lot about him this week. 402 00:26:48,450 --> 00:26:49,810 Mr. El-Sayed, Dr. 403 00:26:50,050 --> 00:26:53,750 El-Sayed. That was the big story in politics this week, is there was a 404 00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:57,970 primary in Michigan. There was a more conventional Democratic candidate. He 405 00:26:57,970 --> 00:27:00,110 lost a squeaker to Dr. 406 00:27:00,390 --> 00:27:05,250 El-Sayed. Now, he's obviously on the subject of Israel. 407 00:27:05,650 --> 00:27:06,970 We're not aligned at all. 408 00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:09,250 But it's interesting. 409 00:27:09,530 --> 00:27:10,590 He's not DSA. 410 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,160 He says he's not. 411 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,360 He says he's not, and he says I'm a capitalist. He does say that. He 412 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:19,440 believes in regulating monopolies, which I think most people agree with. I think 413 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,820 right now he realizes he just won the primary election with the help of Hassan 414 00:27:23,820 --> 00:27:26,140 Piker, and he's probably got to move a little bit to the right. 415 00:27:26,860 --> 00:27:28,380 He didn't win Detroit. 416 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,300 I mean, he didn't win black voters. He didn't win rural voters. He won the 417 00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:36,840 Subaru voter, the white, urban, college-educated voter. 418 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,060 So he's got a lot of work to do in Macomb County, Wayne County. 419 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,860 thing about him is he really speaks to the moment and it's a huge rebuke on 420 00:27:44,860 --> 00:27:45,860 Donald Trump. 421 00:27:45,980 --> 00:27:51,520 Whether you believe in the DSA or what they stand for or socialism, he is a 422 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,520 change candidate. 423 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,720 He went out there and he basically said... 424 00:27:54,940 --> 00:27:59,580 to people who are broke and pissed i hear you and i am running against the 425 00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:02,580 people who are in power right now and it's not just donald trump because the 426 00:28:02,580 --> 00:28:05,680 rest of democrats are only running against donald trump he's running 427 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,360 against donald trump and chuck schumer who spent 30 million against him and 428 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:12,400 aipac that's been another 30 million against him so he's the anti 429 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,420 -establishment candidate trying to he's like this isn't a gate i don't get past 430 00:28:16,420 --> 00:28:19,880 you people you want to spend 60 million dollars on me that's 60 million dollars 431 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,460 with billboards thank you very much so this is this is just what's going to 432 00:28:24,460 --> 00:28:27,440 happen in these moments, because Americans love change, and he is the 433 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,440 change candidate. 434 00:28:28,670 --> 00:28:32,610 We learn about major political parties by what happens in their contested 435 00:28:32,610 --> 00:28:36,490 primaries. And what we see now, kind of beginning in New York, but also the 436 00:28:36,490 --> 00:28:40,250 Grand Platinum race in Michigan, in Colorado, and elsewhere, all the 437 00:28:40,250 --> 00:28:43,690 tension, all the fights are right there on this. And what voters in Michigan 438 00:28:43,690 --> 00:28:48,050 have decided, enough of them, and what DSA and Hassan Piker, a big fan of 439 00:28:48,050 --> 00:28:54,550 Chinese communism and Cuban communism too, so he might not have DSA on his... 440 00:28:54,860 --> 00:28:58,380 on his forearm, but he's hanging out with Hasan Piker, who's a loon. 441 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:04,720 And what they're saying right now is that we don't care if we lose. 442 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,860 Or we're willing to roll the dice on losing this. This is what the Tea Party 443 00:29:08,860 --> 00:29:12,040 was doing with Sharon Engel and Christine O'Donnell 10 years ago. We 444 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,040 will back this person because we want that change agent so much. We want to 445 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,440 change the nature and the characteristic of our political party so it's no more 446 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,900 Chuck Schumer's because, my God, how long is Chuck Schumer's going to be with 447 00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:23,900 us? Forever. 448 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,360 And so they back a person. 449 00:29:25,950 --> 00:29:31,770 Michigan is a contested state. Democrats absolutely want and need to win it. The 450 00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:36,030 conventional wisdom is that Democrats walked into a trap. They often happens 451 00:29:36,030 --> 00:29:41,590 in the primary. The fringe candidate, the candidate on the far left, as in the 452 00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:45,090 Republican Party, the far right, wins the primary because that's who votes in 453 00:29:45,090 --> 00:29:46,090 primaries. 454 00:29:46,659 --> 00:29:51,040 I don't think that's the case. I think he's probably going to win Michigan, and 455 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,780 I'll tell you why. Because in the Democratic Party, when you're a person 456 00:29:54,780 --> 00:29:57,720 of color, it allows you to be more centrist. 457 00:29:58,340 --> 00:30:02,340 A lot of these people, they simply don't trust... 458 00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:06,100 White people. And I'm talking mostly about the white people. Are you saying 459 00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:09,040 that he... They don't like... White people don't like white people. Are you 460 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,019 saying that he's centrist, though? 461 00:30:10,020 --> 00:30:14,220 I'm saying it allows you to be more centrist, like Obama was. They just 462 00:30:14,220 --> 00:30:15,220 trust you more. 463 00:30:15,540 --> 00:30:17,620 I mean, look at this Francesca Hong. 464 00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:23,200 I mentioned in the monologue what she said about whiteness and toxicity. 465 00:30:23,780 --> 00:30:28,620 She described her son. Now, she has an ex-husband who is white. 466 00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:30,940 Okay, she's Asian. 467 00:30:32,410 --> 00:30:37,350 She described his wrestling with, this is her own son, being in proximity to 468 00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:38,350 whiteness. 469 00:30:39,290 --> 00:30:44,330 Of all the things I think the Democrats have to lose, number one, whiteness. 470 00:30:44,890 --> 00:30:47,310 It's not a disease. You look like nice people. 471 00:30:48,970 --> 00:30:50,290 You're nice people, right? 472 00:30:50,510 --> 00:30:51,510 Yeah, kind of. 473 00:30:51,890 --> 00:30:52,990 You might be Italian. 474 00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:57,510 Oh, yeah, I'm white ethnic. White ethnic, I guess. Okay, well, I'm sorry, 475 00:30:57,610 --> 00:31:00,750 but that does not count as a person of color. No. 476 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,960 That's a person with a good tan. That's a very different thing. 477 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,480 But this has got to go, I think. I think this is their big... 478 00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:14,670 I think they're not running on that. Like, she didn't run and campaign on 479 00:31:14,670 --> 00:31:17,650 abolishing. No, but people hear it. Sure, because it's in every single one 480 00:31:17,650 --> 00:31:19,230 of their tweets from 2020 and 2021. 481 00:31:19,670 --> 00:31:23,930 I mean, these grown-ass adults five years ago were saying and doing absolute 482 00:31:23,930 --> 00:31:27,650 nonsense, and now they're running it in every Democratic race and distancing 483 00:31:27,650 --> 00:31:31,710 themselves from their tweets that they made as, you know, 35-year-olds. Yes, 484 00:31:31,710 --> 00:31:32,710 only in America. 485 00:31:33,420 --> 00:31:37,460 Can you be 35-year-old and be like, oh, I'm sorry. It was a youthful 486 00:31:37,460 --> 00:31:41,720 indiscretion. I don't know what I was saying. I don't believe any of them. All 487 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,340 the DSA people are saying, oh, these things you quoted last week, we don't 488 00:31:45,340 --> 00:31:47,920 say. Yeah, you said it. You meant it. Stop it. 489 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,040 Yeah, flip-flopping, though. This is as old as politics. That's not flip 490 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,039 -flopping. That's lying. 491 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,760 That's just pretending you don't. I know who you really are, and that's okay. 492 00:31:58,220 --> 00:31:59,220 Communism. 493 00:31:59,449 --> 00:32:02,630 Communism is an economic system. It always leads to a horribly corrupt, 494 00:32:02,850 --> 00:32:06,550 violent political system, but it is an economic system. You're allowed to vote 495 00:32:06,550 --> 00:32:10,510 for it. I'm not saying make it illegal or anything, but just own up to what it 496 00:32:10,510 --> 00:32:13,890 is. That's what it is. When you're talking about seizing the means of 497 00:32:13,890 --> 00:32:15,970 production, you are a communist. 498 00:32:16,190 --> 00:32:17,850 Okay, just own it. 499 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,440 Yeah, I think the interesting twist right now is that they are trying to 500 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,680 distance themselves from their tweets of five years ago because they realize how 501 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,860 just completely unpopular it is. And it also reminds us that what did we do 12 502 00:32:30,860 --> 00:32:37,220 years ago? Suddenly we decided that, you know, that biological sex was incredibly 503 00:32:37,220 --> 00:32:39,420 fluid, but race was cement. 504 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,840 This is bizarre. 505 00:32:40,860 --> 00:32:45,780 I mean, race is a much more kind of variable, sometimes even fictitious 506 00:32:45,780 --> 00:32:50,000 concept. And yet we're going to die on this hill and then be obsessed over here 507 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,800 with everybody's little single drop of whatever background that they have. It's 508 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,180 madness. We need to get away from that madness. And these reminders that people 509 00:32:58,180 --> 00:33:01,500 were saying five years ago, they are telling on themselves. A person who 510 00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:04,600 thought that five years ago right now is not going to be serious today, I don't 511 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,600 think. 512 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,900 Who is the Democrat who's going to stand up and say, I'm a white guy. I'm not a 513 00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:17,140 racist because I don't think white people are worse. 514 00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:20,520 We're all the same. Humans are not good people. 515 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,340 No. They just aren't. 516 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,580 We've all done horrible things of every race. 517 00:33:25,940 --> 00:33:28,540 Slavery wasn't invented in 1619. 518 00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:30,640 Everybody did it throughout history. 519 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,800 They didn't even think it was wrong. In the Bible, there's lots of rules about 520 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,660 it. None of them are. Don't do it. 521 00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:41,580 There's an additional burden that this places when you are thinking constantly 522 00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:43,800 in terms of race. Who gets off easy in this? 523 00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:45,620 White people do, actually. 524 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,940 Because we're not obsessed with being white. We don't think about it. It's 525 00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:53,140 weird. Anyone who does think about it, we know is weird and we don't want to 526 00:33:53,140 --> 00:33:54,140 hang out with them. It's strange. 527 00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,320 But the burden of it is like there's supposed to be a black way to think or 528 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,520 an Asian way to think. It's madness. We should think like individuals and not 529 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,699 have to be always self-conscious of how we are different than some majority. 530 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,400 That is the stupid way and an anti-American way of looking at it. 531 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,400 Yeah. 532 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,880 It's just, it's weird. 533 00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:23,300 The far-left liberals, they seem to have this self-loathing. Like, that's very 534 00:34:23,300 --> 00:34:24,699 important to their identity. 535 00:34:25,260 --> 00:34:27,980 That we know we're bad, that's how we know we're good. 536 00:34:30,460 --> 00:34:36,080 Anyway, we like to cover all the issues on this show, and I noticed that, you 537 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,360 know, it was state fair. 538 00:34:39,980 --> 00:34:41,360 Why am I even trying to sell this? 539 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:47,219 We're doing it because it's funny, but it is. It's time for the state fairs all 540 00:34:47,219 --> 00:34:50,679 around the country. They're having them now in Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, New York, 541 00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:51,960 Minnesota, Alaska, Kentucky. 542 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,340 We cater to all types. We're not one of those shows that just caters to one 543 00:34:56,340 --> 00:34:58,080 group. We had Mike Rowe on, for God's sake. 544 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,320 So we even picked up a copy, because we care about this so much. 545 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,800 State Fair Living. This is the magazine about state fairs, and it's just 546 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,920 fascinating. Would you like to hear some of the articles? I thought you would. 547 00:35:14,260 --> 00:35:15,260 Okay. 548 00:35:16,420 --> 00:35:19,080 Ten ways to eat a corn dog without looking gay. 549 00:35:24,460 --> 00:35:30,020 Is operating a tilt-a-whirl while drunk illegal? The answer may surprise you. 550 00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:38,580 Top LGBTQ-friendly state fairs? None. 551 00:35:43,580 --> 00:35:48,260 Original Beach Boy or Old Man Muttering Barbara Ann? Five ways to know. 552 00:35:53,380 --> 00:35:57,040 Dear State Fair Living, what are the bearded ladies' pronouns? 553 00:36:03,470 --> 00:36:06,930 Guess your weight, worker, tells all. A Zempik is ruining my job. 554 00:36:11,690 --> 00:36:15,350 I'm sorry, he's in a better place. And other things to tell your kid after the 555 00:36:15,350 --> 00:36:17,050 goldfish dies on the way home. 556 00:36:21,650 --> 00:36:25,490 And gold cotton candy tastes the president's hair. 557 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,900 Many important stories, but I want to talk about cancel culture for a minute 558 00:36:37,900 --> 00:36:40,080 because I saw this story this week. 559 00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:45,220 An actor on Broadway named Geno Seegers, I hope I'm pronouncing that right. Oh, 560 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,440 there he is. 561 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:52,320 He was set to star in a movie, a play, maybe a musical, I don't know, called 562 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,940 Hadestown. Hadestown, not Hadestown, Hades. He was going to play the devil. 563 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,360 And then they found out he is the devil. 564 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,460 So he will not be playing the devil. 565 00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:05,130 Why? Because they got a hold of the old tweet. 566 00:37:05,350 --> 00:37:11,630 I guess they're not that old. But the lesson here to me is that cancel culture 567 00:37:11,630 --> 00:37:16,330 is not dead, because he is shit-canned from the show, and that in certain 568 00:37:16,330 --> 00:37:20,870 precincts of this country, you are not allowed to have any opinion that doesn't 569 00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:25,510 conform exactly, and I mean exactly, to the one true opinion. 570 00:37:25,790 --> 00:37:27,930 He said, he's talking about trans people. 571 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,000 I'm not against anyone living out their lives the way they want, but I am 572 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,820 against their rights superseding the rights of other people. 573 00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:39,500 Now, if you made this argument in any sort of reasonable debate, it's okay. 574 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:40,640 About anybody? 575 00:37:40,980 --> 00:37:41,980 About anybody. 576 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,680 Superseding your rights? 577 00:37:43,980 --> 00:37:44,980 Yes. 578 00:37:46,570 --> 00:37:51,610 We do not have the right to have a differing opinion. This cannot go on. I 579 00:37:51,610 --> 00:37:54,890 don't think it can go on. I guess it will go on. I think it was a calculated 580 00:37:54,890 --> 00:37:59,990 marketing decision because Broadway obviously has a very big population that 581 00:37:59,990 --> 00:38:05,450 runs it, gay population, people that buy, they're consumers that buy tickets 582 00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:09,410 are gay. I think that they probably decided that this online mob that moved 583 00:38:09,410 --> 00:38:12,650 very quickly against them, they made some comms and marketing decisions and 584 00:38:12,650 --> 00:38:15,050 they were like, we don't want to have a boycott of our show. 585 00:38:15,530 --> 00:38:18,110 So let's just get rid of him. I think this is more of a market decision in 586 00:38:18,110 --> 00:38:21,150 terms of Broadway, because he'd be welcome at the Pentagon under Hegseth in 587 00:38:21,150 --> 00:38:22,150 a second. 588 00:38:23,330 --> 00:38:29,710 Every time I read one of these stories, I always like, 589 00:38:29,810 --> 00:38:33,410 you know, they usually portray his hateful statements that he said. I'm 590 00:38:33,410 --> 00:38:37,130 like, all right, what paragraph is it going to be? 12 or 19 that we're going 591 00:38:37,130 --> 00:38:40,510 to get to what the statement is? And is it going to be remotely hateful? I 592 00:38:40,510 --> 00:38:41,510 didn't find it. 593 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,200 Did you find? I don't. I mean, there are some other ones. 594 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,640 He said so. 595 00:38:46,220 --> 00:38:50,400 He said, no, of course, some people will come to me and say, oh, you know, they 596 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,240 meaning trans folks don't feel that way. They're just tired of being hunted. 597 00:38:54,340 --> 00:38:56,100 They're tired of being oppressed and persecuted. 598 00:38:56,740 --> 00:39:01,420 I'm sorry. I don't see that. I don't see transgender people becoming oppressed or 599 00:39:01,420 --> 00:39:04,300 being persecuted. Well, of course not. You work on Broadway. 600 00:39:06,810 --> 00:39:11,010 But, you know, he's just basically saying there isn't some pogrom going on 601 00:39:11,010 --> 00:39:14,710 out there. Jews are getting stabbed every day somewhere around the world. 602 00:39:15,210 --> 00:39:18,950 And let's say he's wrong about that. Like, he's just materially wrong in that 603 00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:20,050 analysis. Okay. 604 00:39:20,460 --> 00:39:23,780 You can say something that's wrong. You can say... No, you can't. You can. 605 00:39:23,820 --> 00:39:27,320 That's the thing, is that you just can't. This is not the only one this 606 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,660 week. The Indiana Fever star, Sophie Cunningham. 607 00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:34,320 I don't follow the WNBA as closely as I would like to. 608 00:39:35,780 --> 00:39:39,220 Not because they're women, just because I'm time-first, all sorts. 609 00:39:40,060 --> 00:39:41,880 I don't watch college either, okay? 610 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,560 What? 611 00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:44,729 It's okay. 612 00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:45,730 I know. It's okay. 613 00:39:45,810 --> 00:39:47,690 I don't even have to apologize for it, okay? 614 00:39:48,570 --> 00:39:55,470 She said, I got a lot of feedback, negative feedback about me hating trans. 615 00:39:55,710 --> 00:40:00,230 She didn't say she hates trans. She said, I am here to extend love, but I 616 00:40:00,230 --> 00:40:04,850 also think that love is truth and being honest. And I want to protect young 617 00:40:04,850 --> 00:40:09,190 girls in a locker room or young girls in sport who shouldn't have to go against 618 00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:10,630 biological men. 619 00:40:11,490 --> 00:40:17,730 Again, this is where about 80% of the country is. And Martina Navratilova is 620 00:40:17,730 --> 00:40:19,310 and has been for a long time. Right. 621 00:40:19,870 --> 00:40:21,230 Prominent athlete and lesbian. 622 00:40:23,850 --> 00:40:28,510 What? The lesbian part is just the funny part. No, I mean, that's relevant to the 623 00:40:28,510 --> 00:40:32,810 discussion. And someone who had a trans trainer. I mean, Renee Richards was her 624 00:40:32,810 --> 00:40:34,970 trainer for a long time. But not all gay people are necessarily. 625 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,720 the same in terms of like their beliefs on this. Of course. I mean, I'm just, 626 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,620 Martina Navratilova is not an insignificant person in this debate and 627 00:40:43,620 --> 00:40:46,740 can't be called a MAGA Barbie, which is what people are calling Sophie 628 00:40:46,740 --> 00:40:51,800 Cunningham because she's blonde and she pointed at people and she is, she knows 629 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,660 that she has a fan base of people who don't, who are on the, on the 80 side of 630 00:40:56,660 --> 00:40:59,240 the issue instead of the 20 side of the issue. And there's an attempt to kind of 631 00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:02,240 demonize her. And I think the interesting part is that it's failing. I 632 00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:04,820 mean, there's, she has to answer questions at every press conference. 633 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,840 in the WNBA, and she kind of just matter-of-factly gives it back, and 634 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,920 she's not really suffering all that much. 635 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,820 I think the culture has changed a lot in healthy ways, but just as in Broadway, 636 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,860 just as in the sports press corps, strangely enough, there are places where 637 00:41:21,860 --> 00:41:26,880 they try to enforce the 20 against the 80, and it looks ridiculous 638 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,900 increasingly. So you think it's also marketing when they made Patti LuPone of 639 00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:36,550 Broadway? Bend the knee, because she had a controversy about a year ago. If you 640 00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:38,770 don't know Patti LuPone, she's a big Broadway star. 641 00:41:39,130 --> 00:41:43,730 And she was working in a theater that was very, shared a wall with another 642 00:41:43,730 --> 00:41:47,910 show. Happened to be a black show, and the noise was bleeding through the wall. 643 00:41:48,110 --> 00:41:51,250 And Patti LuPone said, can we work this out? And she was... 644 00:41:53,180 --> 00:41:56,400 history's greatest monster for suggesting black people are loud. 645 00:41:56,620 --> 00:42:00,880 That's not what she was saying. She was just saying people in my show can't hear 646 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,620 because of your show. Maybe we can work something out. 647 00:42:03,820 --> 00:42:05,500 And she was made to apologize. 648 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,400 All of Broadway had to put out an open letter. They all hated her. This is 649 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,120 madness. I think that the arts are controlled by liberals. 650 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,780 Yes, you think? And so therefore, they get to set the rules. 651 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,000 I mean, that's what they do. 652 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,120 I don't think that's liberal. 653 00:42:20,650 --> 00:42:21,950 That's regressive. 654 00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:23,190 That is not liberal. 655 00:42:24,310 --> 00:42:28,450 Liberals don't know what liberalism is anymore. By the way, Patti LuPone was on 656 00:42:28,450 --> 00:42:30,650 this cruise ship. Did you read about that? The cruise ship? 657 00:42:30,970 --> 00:42:35,930 There was a gay cruise ship. She's a gay icon, Broadway star. Okay, so she's on 658 00:42:35,930 --> 00:42:41,250 this gay cruise ship. Would not let it dock in Turkey and Egypt. 659 00:42:42,190 --> 00:42:43,950 Would not let the cruise ship dock. 660 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,680 A lot of people were saying, well, I mean, on the left, they were saying, you 661 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,180 know, this rightist backlash against gay people. No, it isn't. 662 00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:54,020 It's because they're Muslim countries. 663 00:42:54,460 --> 00:42:59,340 They don't think gay people have equal rights, or in some ways, some instances, 664 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,280 don't think they should even be allowed to exist. 665 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,300 This is what the problem is. They don't know where liberalism is. 666 00:43:05,740 --> 00:43:07,700 Yeah. I mean, that's illiberal. 667 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,100 Yes, and we are in a situation where there are... 668 00:43:12,580 --> 00:43:17,360 large minority strings in both major parties and the blocs that comprise them 669 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,240 that are anti-liberal. The post-liberal right has been talking about this for a 670 00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:25,620 long time. They look at the Enlightenment founding principles and 671 00:43:25,620 --> 00:43:29,260 say, I don't know, that's not common good. We need to think about common 672 00:43:29,260 --> 00:43:34,120 good. And on the left, we've seen for a long time now a very anti-liberal set of 673 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,180 sort of speech ideas and just the amount of social pressure that was enacted on 674 00:43:38,180 --> 00:43:40,100 people for many, many years. 675 00:43:40,670 --> 00:43:43,710 And everyone went through it. There was a backlash. You know, if you are facing 676 00:43:43,710 --> 00:43:48,350 your HR person trying to tell you a bunch of nonsense, and you know if you 677 00:43:48,350 --> 00:43:51,830 speak up and say, that sounds a little crazy, you're going to get into a world 678 00:43:51,830 --> 00:43:55,630 of hurt. A lot of people went through that and told themselves, like, the 679 00:43:55,630 --> 00:43:58,030 solution to this is to vote for Donald Trump, and now I'm sure there's some 680 00:43:58,030 --> 00:44:00,310 regrets about that. I mean, there's always going to be a consequence to 681 00:44:00,310 --> 00:44:04,170 having an unpopular opinion. Someone could hear one of my opinions while I'm 682 00:44:04,170 --> 00:44:06,830 sitting here, and they might not want to open a door to me. 683 00:44:07,370 --> 00:44:09,590 And I just think a lot of it is driven by the market. 684 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,920 Some of it is driven by fear. 685 00:44:12,220 --> 00:44:15,820 And if they make decisions in 48 hours, it's super rough. And especially with 686 00:44:15,820 --> 00:44:21,300 the way that things move right now, the online mob, it can get together in a 687 00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:22,299 matter of minutes. 688 00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:26,680 But I do think that you don't know if what you say is going to close doors. 689 00:44:26,780 --> 00:44:30,040 You don't know how you are offending people at any time. Well, I'll give you 690 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,040 a good example of that. 691 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,000 And if they have power and money, then they make the decisions. That's usually 692 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,360 how it works, you know? I'll give you a good example of that. 693 00:44:35,740 --> 00:44:39,220 apropos to the idea that the liberals are fetishizing the wrong people, 694 00:44:40,060 --> 00:44:44,680 Melissa Chaudry, she was also running, she was, you know, pretty staunch 695 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,420 liberal. She was asked about LGBT rights, which she has supported, 696 00:44:48,620 --> 00:44:52,740 including, as she has supported, justice, health care, protections in 697 00:44:52,740 --> 00:44:56,140 housing and unemployment. She says, then why is that not on your website? 698 00:44:56,460 --> 00:45:00,760 Her answer, because a lot of Muslims do not feel that way, unfortunately. 699 00:45:02,620 --> 00:45:03,620 Oh. 700 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,820 since they don't feel that way, we just throw the gay people under the bus? 701 00:45:07,980 --> 00:45:09,960 Yeah. And this is what liberalism is now? 702 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,760 Yeah. I mean, there was some of this in the Michigan primary of, well, I didn't 703 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,520 want to come out too strong about the Ayatollah being killed because a lot of 704 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,920 the constituents out there are a little upset about that. Well, you can probably 705 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,260 take a position about the Ayatollah being killed or about Hamas being bad or 706 00:45:27,260 --> 00:45:28,580 Israel having a right to exist. 707 00:45:29,390 --> 00:45:35,030 El-Sayed several times and said he found it hard to get to a yes, let's say. 708 00:45:35,130 --> 00:45:37,850 Right. And I don't think El-Sayed is a terrorist. 709 00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:43,870 I don't know enough about him to know what he thinks about some of these 710 00:45:43,870 --> 00:45:46,230 issues. But I assume he's running in America. 711 00:45:46,490 --> 00:45:50,950 He wants to be an American. He wants to have American values. I certainly would 712 00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:52,050 hope that to be the case. 713 00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:55,610 But, you know, come out forthrightly and just say. 714 00:45:56,250 --> 00:45:59,630 We do not want to be the country that doesn't allow gay ships to dock. 715 00:46:00,230 --> 00:46:02,310 Okay. Is that that hard to do? 716 00:46:03,970 --> 00:46:04,970 Okay. 717 00:46:07,550 --> 00:46:11,570 So Trump got two guys in this week, two of his people. He had a pretty good week 718 00:46:11,570 --> 00:46:16,130 with them. Todd Blanch, his personal lawyer, which, okay, Jack Kennedy had 719 00:46:16,130 --> 00:46:19,230 his brother as the attorney general. Okay. And Jay Clayton. 720 00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:23,330 John asked Ossoff, who I think that's the guy, the Democrat. 721 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,600 should be looking to. I think he says some great things. Of course, he's a 722 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,600 Jew. Forget it. 723 00:46:29,060 --> 00:46:33,980 He said to Todd Blanch, who could not, or maybe it was Jay Clayton, who could 724 00:46:33,980 --> 00:46:37,120 not get himself to say that Trump lost the 2020 election. 725 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,980 He said to him, aren't you embarrassed? 726 00:46:39,690 --> 00:46:42,890 This is the right question to be asking, Republicans. 727 00:46:43,250 --> 00:46:48,290 Aren't you embarrassed that you have to sit here knowing that Donald Trump is 728 00:46:48,290 --> 00:46:52,170 watching you and that you can't say what everybody else in this room knows, 729 00:46:52,270 --> 00:46:55,190 including you, that he lost the 2020 election? 730 00:46:55,570 --> 00:46:57,950 How can you do your job under those circumstances? 731 00:46:58,330 --> 00:47:00,810 That, to me, is the question the Democrats should be asking. 732 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,260 And it goes to your Jeanine Pirro thing in the monologue, too. 733 00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:12,860 Your job, the way you got that job is by nodding enough when the president of the 734 00:47:12,860 --> 00:47:16,220 United States said something that was just absolute BS. 735 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,380 You got that job for that reason. And then you will come up, and this happened 736 00:47:20,380 --> 00:47:25,280 with Dan Bongino and everybody else, suddenly you come into the office and 737 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,340 you can't keep doing the lie in office. 738 00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:32,500 And it's very difficult. And so then you have to go and have a rough meeting with 739 00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:35,980 the president. Think about that world that we're in right now. Like, that is, 740 00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:40,980 you either have to say that the 2020 election was rigged, or in the case of 741 00:47:40,980 --> 00:47:44,180 RFK Jr., that the 2004 election was rigged against Democrats. 742 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,050 Look that up if you haven't. But that is a really bad place. We're in an 743 00:47:49,050 --> 00:47:51,710 epistemic dead end right now. All right. Thank you very much. 744 00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:52,988 Very fun. 745 00:47:52,990 --> 00:47:54,350 Time for new rules, everybody. 746 00:47:59,390 --> 00:48:00,390 Okay. 747 00:48:01,550 --> 00:48:05,730 New rule. Now that Jeanine Pirro stood up to Trump and said she won't prosecute 748 00:48:05,730 --> 00:48:10,350 the guy Trump accused of vandalizing the reflecting pool, she has to tell us. Why 749 00:48:10,350 --> 00:48:11,790 don't you want America to be great? 750 00:48:14,860 --> 00:48:19,300 And don't think Trump isn't going to get back at you. That 200% tariff on French 751 00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:21,300 wine, now it's 300%. 752 00:48:21,300 --> 00:48:28,380 New 753 00:48:28,380 --> 00:48:32,400 rules, scolds and prudes have to stop saying there's something weird about 754 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,100 Maine Senate candidate Troy Jackson being married to his second cousin. 755 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,640 Have you ever been to Maine? 756 00:48:42,570 --> 00:48:46,650 There are three things to do. Marry your cousin, get Lyme disease, and kill camp 757 00:48:46,650 --> 00:48:47,650 counselors. 758 00:48:50,590 --> 00:48:57,570 And... And they're not actually married. They just have a couple of 759 00:48:57,570 --> 00:48:59,770 kids. Marry your cousin, that would be gross. 760 00:49:02,670 --> 00:49:06,610 New Rule, since I couldn't make this year's International Owl Porn Festival 761 00:49:06,610 --> 00:49:12,020 in... in Nada, Switzerland, please sign me up for next year because I'm dying to 762 00:49:12,020 --> 00:49:14,420 find out where you put the weed and how you light it. 763 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,640 And I hear the music sucks, but the snacks afterward are amazing. 764 00:49:32,750 --> 00:49:37,350 But scientists have created the first ever 3D map of the nerves running to and 765 00:49:37,350 --> 00:49:41,610 from the female clitoris. They have to tell me, why does it look so much like 766 00:49:41,610 --> 00:49:43,950 the cover of the Eagles' One of These Nights album? 767 00:49:51,590 --> 00:49:57,510 Neural designers at the AI MOGA company must tell us why their new humanoid 768 00:49:57,510 --> 00:50:00,350 robot comes with blonde hair and a fat ass. 769 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,000 You're working too hard. Have you met a human male? We'll stick our dick in a 770 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,000 vacuum cleaner. 771 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,420 Here's a sign you're living in a future nobody wants when you meet a girl at the 772 00:50:20,420 --> 00:50:22,420 club and tell her, back that thing up. 773 00:50:24,180 --> 00:50:26,380 And she says, you mean to the cloud? 774 00:50:35,630 --> 00:50:40,810 Stop threatening to put everyone in jail who you just don't like, the way Senator 775 00:50:40,810 --> 00:50:43,350 Rand Paul is trying to do now with Dr. 776 00:50:43,550 --> 00:50:48,810 Anthony Fauci, who was back in the news because Senator Paul, formerly of the 777 00:50:48,810 --> 00:50:54,350 privacy is everything wing of the Republican Party, got hold of Dr. 778 00:50:54,590 --> 00:50:57,510 Fauci's personal diary and published all of it. 779 00:50:57,930 --> 00:51:02,450 Rand, babe, your entire brand is Senator Right to Privacy. 780 00:51:02,650 --> 00:51:04,430 You're the libertarian guy. 781 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,100 The Fourth Amendment guy. 782 00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:07,700 It's your family legacy. 783 00:51:08,020 --> 00:51:12,180 Your entire political career has been about warning us about government 784 00:51:12,180 --> 00:51:17,160 overreach. You printing someone's diary is like AOC wearing a gown that says, 785 00:51:17,220 --> 00:51:18,220 tax the poor. 786 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,380 And so we enter yet another story news, news story that illustrates the 787 00:51:29,380 --> 00:51:31,020 Rorschach test that is America. 788 00:51:31,630 --> 00:51:35,930 Dr. Fauci, depending on your politics, is either an esteemed, dedicated public 789 00:51:35,930 --> 00:51:38,990 servant or a vain, flawed bureaucrat. 790 00:51:39,410 --> 00:51:40,510 Well, it's both. 791 00:51:41,110 --> 00:51:42,690 Life's complicated that way. 792 00:51:42,930 --> 00:51:44,190 You know what's really complicated? 793 00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:46,450 Science. And Dr. 794 00:51:46,650 --> 00:51:49,010 Fauci definitely got some of that wrong. 795 00:51:49,550 --> 00:51:53,310 He said if he got the vaccine, it was highly unlikely you'd get COVID or 796 00:51:53,310 --> 00:51:54,310 transmit it. Wrong. 797 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,820 Okay, but that's not because it was part of some self-dealing plot. 798 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:03,280 Things were changing rapidly. They just got it wrong. That's science. Reports of 799 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:09,160 Fauci deliberately lying are based on lazy research, including from centrists 800 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,040 that got timelines wrong or transposed. 801 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:17,160 But Fauci could be unforgiving, too. In his diary, he describes a dispute with 802 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,540 another medical advisor, Scott Atlas, who wanted to keep the schools open. 803 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,580 Which Fauci told his dear diary, borders on criminal. 804 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:31,540 No, he's not a criminal and you're not a criminal, which should be obvious since 805 00:52:31,540 --> 00:52:36,320 only two months later when Atlas resigned, Fauci wrote, the one area he 806 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,300 was correct was in saying that school children are not the drivers of the 807 00:52:40,300 --> 00:52:45,460 outbreak. Okay, so can we not call people criminals just for the part they 808 00:52:45,460 --> 00:52:46,460 got wrong? 809 00:52:46,820 --> 00:52:47,820 Look. 810 00:52:52,330 --> 00:52:56,730 Look, from the beginning, there were two schools of thought on how to handle 811 00:52:56,730 --> 00:53:02,630 COVID. One was the model they followed in Sweden and Florida, two places that 812 00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:05,910 have nothing in common except the love of old people in sweaters. 813 00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:13,090 But both places thought it was smarter, and both did quite well. 814 00:53:13,690 --> 00:53:17,810 By laser focusing on protecting the vulnerable and letting life go on for 815 00:53:17,810 --> 00:53:21,710 everyone else. They thought it was a good idea to get out and go in the sun 816 00:53:21,710 --> 00:53:24,910 for vitamin D and fresh air. You know, crazy stuff. 817 00:53:26,590 --> 00:53:27,850 Not crazy stuff. 818 00:53:28,550 --> 00:53:33,230 The other side, well, let's just say they erred on the side of caution. 819 00:53:33,590 --> 00:53:36,590 Really, really into erring on that side. 820 00:53:36,810 --> 00:53:38,610 I showed this picture last week. 821 00:53:39,020 --> 00:53:43,440 That's a Democratic socialist meeting in Colorado last month. 822 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,400 Now, that's extreme, but it's the direction that that half of the country 823 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,400 tends toward. 824 00:53:50,700 --> 00:53:55,280 David Leonhardt studied this issue and wrote of Democrats during the pandemic. 825 00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:01,060 Organizing their lives around COVID is core to their identity as progressives. 826 00:54:01,140 --> 00:54:04,860 And that is the place where I have a problem with the hero worship. 827 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:11,260 of Anthony Fauci, because it seems fame is a drug with a 100% addiction rate. 828 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,900 Have you read some of the shit in Fauci's diary? 829 00:54:14,860 --> 00:54:18,460 Last week I played a game here called, Who said it, Fauci or Trump? 830 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,000 Let's play. 831 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,440 It is not hyperbole to say I am the most famous and talked about person in the 832 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:29,920 country. The nurses went absolutely wild to see me. I am such a valued 833 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,740 spokesperson and a good communicator. 834 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,100 One person said that Tyra Banks was sexy, but I was even sexier than she 835 00:54:36,100 --> 00:54:37,100 was. 836 00:54:39,740 --> 00:54:41,360 None of that is Trump. 837 00:54:41,580 --> 00:54:42,800 That's all Fauci. 838 00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:44,960 Writing to himself. 839 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:46,760 At 80. 840 00:54:48,700 --> 00:54:53,280 Why? So we can read it back when he's 100 and remember what a hot piece of ass 841 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,280 he was at 80? 842 00:55:01,550 --> 00:55:03,570 Talk about main character syndrome. 843 00:55:04,490 --> 00:55:08,470 Fauci dropped celebrity names like 60 Minutes drops correspondence. 844 00:55:13,130 --> 00:55:20,030 I mean, it's like finding out that in the 1950s, Jonas Salk kept a diary as 845 00:55:20,030 --> 00:55:24,310 he was developing the polio vaccine, but it was mostly about how he got to meet 846 00:55:24,310 --> 00:55:25,310 Howdy Doody. 847 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:33,080 Now, am I saying all of Fauci's decisions came about because he was 848 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,880 lapping up the adulation? No. 849 00:55:35,420 --> 00:55:41,060 But you have to try awfully hard not to notice how much Fauci is energized by 850 00:55:41,060 --> 00:55:44,020 being embraced by one particular cultural tribe. 851 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:49,480 It was Julia Roberts who was telling Fauci he was Jesus with a petri dish, 852 00:55:49,660 --> 00:55:50,820 not Randy Quaid. 853 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,520 And that side likes to think of themselves... 854 00:55:56,890 --> 00:56:00,890 As the purely science people, even though keeping kids out of school that 855 00:56:00,890 --> 00:56:06,830 long and traumatizing two-year-olds with masks wasn't good science, Fauci 856 00:56:06,830 --> 00:56:11,230 supported some strange policies for such an esteemed epidemiologist. 857 00:56:11,590 --> 00:56:13,790 Natural immunity doesn't count now? 858 00:56:14,330 --> 00:56:18,010 Meaning, even if you've had the disease, you still had to get the shot? 859 00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:23,530 That sounds more like what Pfizer and Fauci's celebrity friends wanted to 860 00:56:23,530 --> 00:56:25,910 hear. He let the shit go to his head. 861 00:56:26,510 --> 00:56:31,390 Turns out the really dangerous intimate contact wasn't shaking hands, it was 862 00:56:31,390 --> 00:56:32,390 kissing ass. 863 00:56:36,510 --> 00:56:43,230 And yet, he is very, very far away 864 00:56:43,230 --> 00:56:44,570 from being a criminal. 865 00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:49,310 Please, he's not Dr. Mengele because your kid had to take algebra on Zoom. 866 00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:55,480 He put in a lot of service for the country, but at the end of the day, he 867 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,980 was somewhat seduced. I mean, ask yourself, what happens every time in 868 00:56:59,980 --> 00:57:03,640 high school the nerdy kid gets invited to the cool kid's table? 869 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:10,180 Okay, that's never happened. But if it did, look, when someone strokes your 870 00:57:10,180 --> 00:57:11,900 ego, it affects your opinions. 871 00:57:12,220 --> 00:57:17,180 And it's all too easy to go from everyone says I'm amazing to only idiots 872 00:57:17,180 --> 00:57:18,240 disagree with me. 873 00:57:18,650 --> 00:57:23,650 Hollywood co-opted Fauci, and Fauci told the country what Hollywood wanted to 874 00:57:23,650 --> 00:57:25,850 hear. If you go outside, you'll die. 875 00:57:26,130 --> 00:57:27,390 So send your assistant. 876 00:57:29,670 --> 00:57:30,670 All right. 877 00:57:31,310 --> 00:57:33,750 That's our show. I want to thank Matt Welch, 878 00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:39,110 Sarah Palmieri, and Mike Rowe. Club Random Drops every Monday on YouTube, or 879 00:57:39,110 --> 00:57:40,430 listen wherever you get your podcasts. 880 00:57:40,690 --> 00:57:42,190 Now watch Overtime on YouTube. 881 00:57:42,430 --> 00:57:44,170 Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. 882 00:57:45,190 --> 00:57:46,290 Thank you.